Joyce Gongxeka’s Petition & Britain Study Tour Report: discussion
NCOP Petitions and Executive Undertakings
11 September 2007
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MEMBERS’ LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS: SELECT COMMITTEE
11
September 2007
JOYCE
GONGXEKA’S PETITION & BRITAIN STUDY TOUR REPORT: DISCUSSION
Chairperson: Mr F Adams (ANC, Western Cape)
Documents handed out:
Memorandum from Mr
J H Mahlangu, MP dated 10 September 2007
The International
Study Tour: British Parliament 26 February – 04 March 2007
Committee Minutes : 6 January 2007
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SUMMARY
The Chairperson announced that he had now received a response from the
Chairperson of the National Council of Provinces, giving permission to the
Committee to refer Ms Joyce Gongxeka's petition to
the Executive in terms of Section 235(1) of the Rules of the NCOP. A request
had been made by the Chairperson of the NCOP to know of the deliberations and
the Minutes had been sent to him. It was agreed that the committee would write
to the Department of Defence to obtain information as to what transpired in
this matter, and on receipt of the response the petition would be considered
further.
The Committee discussed the preliminary report on the Study Tour to the British
Parliament, and noted that all Members should be asked to submit their findings
and recommendations by 5 October, when the report would be finalised and
adopted. The Minutes of the meeting of 6 June could not be seconded, in the
absence of Mr Watson.
MINUTES
The Chairperson welcomed and introduced the new Researcher, Ms N Nqaba.
Petition of Ms J Gongxeka
Mr Adams referred to the memorandum from Mr Mahlangu,
and explained that in terms of Section 235(1) of the Rules of the National
Council of Provinces it was necessary for the Committee to get permission from
the Chairperson of the Council to approach the Executive regarding special
petitions.
The Chair had written to Mr Mahlangu’s office on 8
June 2007. After numerous requests and enquiries the Chairperson had heard
yesterday that the letter had been lost in Mr Mahlangu’s
office, and he had expressed his displeasure that this could happen. The reply
indicated that permission was granted to the Committee to refer the matter to
the Executive in terms of Section 235(1) of the NCOP Rules, but that Mr Mahlangu wished to know what deliberations took place in
the Committee, besides the decision to refer. The Chairperson had decided to
send the Minutes, because the Committee would need to hear both sides of the
story and get the Department’s response regarding the petition, as well as
legal advice.
It was agreed that the Committee would engage with the Department of Defence by
writing to them so that they could answer as to what happened. Once their
response was received the Committee could then decide what action to take
regarding Ms Gongxeka’s petition.
International Study tour: British Parliament 26 February – 04 March 2007
The Chairperson stated that the report needed to be in the ATC and to be
accepted by the House and approved by the House of the National Council of
Provinces. The report had been circulated.
Mr T Manyosi (ANC, Eastern Cape) thanked the
Committee Secretary for compiling the report and sending it to members in time.
He was satisfied with the report but asked why there were no recommendations.
Ms Z Mahapa, Committee Secretary, explained that she had compiled the
report but recommendations had to come from the members of the delegation.
Mr Manyosi said he had made recommendations and asked
Ms Mahapa to refer back to the draft.
Rev L Moseki (ANC, North West) suggested that those
members who had not already done so should try to formulate recommendations
before the end of the meeting. The Committee secretariat should then coordinate
them and organise another thirty minutes to finalise the report.
The Chairperson said there would not be time to convene another meeting before
the constituency period. He proposed meeting in the first or second week after
the constituency period to discuss and finalise the report.
Rev Moseki suggested as a matter of procedure that
the report should include the findings of the delegation, and then go on to
list the recommendations.
Mr Adams asked the Committee Secretary to write to Mr Watson, asking him for
his findings on the report and his recommendations by 5th October,
so that the Committee could at that meeting deliberate and finalise the report.
Mr Adams thanked Ms Mahapa for compiling the report.
Minutes of Meeting 6 June 2007
Mr Manyosi reminded the meeting that as Mr Watson was
not present the minutes could be adopted, but not seconded. He would therefore
write to the Chairperson of the National Council of Provinces to say what had
transpired in the meeting.
The meeting was adjourned.
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